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Hell interview With Peter Criss
KISS HELL (Joe D.): How does it feel
to be back in KISS?
PETER CRISS: Well it's funny,
maybe it's like winning the rock & roll lottery! I just never
thought I'd be back with the guys. I learned never to say never, that's
one word I don't use anymore because I would become a big hypocrite so
it's amazing. I feel like I'm back where I belong. where I always should
have been anyway, that's kinda my deal it's like I'm right back in my
old seat again.
KH: How do you feel about just
completing the biggest & most successful KISS tour ever?
PC: I'm happy to be home! I'm talking to you from my home and I'm
like major brown cause I live right on the ocean so I'm really dark and
I'm walking around in shorts and it's nice to be home man! We were out
for longer than a year and it's probably the biggest high I've ever been
on so I'm glad we're off now cause I think we all needed time to get our
brains back together again!
KH: Why do you think this tour went
over so well with the fans? Did you expect it to be this big?
PC: I don't know, I guess everything is timing, I'm a firm believer
of that as a drummer obviously but I just think that the time was
perfect. I don't knock new bands, I like a lot of the stuff out today. I
like a lot of it and I don't like a lot of it and it's my preference and
I've found a lot of the music for me, when someone's singing about
suicide and heroin and like it's a drag being up there and let's get a
revolution goin, I don't get it man you know I don't buy that. I always
thought that the time on stage that I get to perform for my fans is
really precious time and it's a great time because the best time for me
when we were out there was the two hours we played every night. My best
two hours of the day was on stage because I saw people from 1 to 100
forgetting their problems that were wearing KISS t shirts and KISS
makeup and it was like a party again. I really believe that the world
needed to get out of this, because the worst thing is a musician or a
quote unquote 'rock star' who makes it and he starts quoting you what he
thinks life is about and what he thinks politics are about-that's
bullshit. Noone really knows you just kinda try to do what's right and
wrong I think. For me I'm just trying to play my heart out. I'm playing
my heart out and I'm seeing now that a whole new generation's really
digging us.
KH: Will there deifinitely be a new
studio album coming out from you guys (the original band)?
PC: I don't know, right now as we speak they're negotiating that.
They're negotiating on a record and we're just kinda sitting tight and
we were told to kind of relax and enjoy ourselves cause we worked so
hard and we've got some time off. I mean I haven't seen my girl in a
month and she lives in New Jersey and she's coming to L.A. with me.
There is definite talk of a CD absolutely all four of us are in definite
favor of going in to do one, we all wanna do one. It's been a long time
since we've done one together and I personally believe that the best
KISS album hasn't been done yet and we're better musicians and we're
wiser and we're much more focused so I would gather it with that energy
alone right there. Our reunion was a major success and a major event in
rock & roll history, I think the album would be fuckin' kick ass!
KH: Has the band started writing any
songs for the album yet?
PC: Well I've got songs I'm sure we all got songs and it's just a
matter of if they're the right songs for the right concept whatever that
may be. In the albums we were always firm believers of the real concept
like the Love Gun album we had guns that popped and and it always had
something to do with it, something about the album always had a great
concept to it, right down to Destroyer to all of them and I think the
same with this album. We were talking about it towards the end of the
tour that you gotta have the classic KISS sound, you must have that
cause we don't wanna do something really difficult or intricate we wanna
stay as simple KISS as possible yet it still has to be really good and
knockout as much as my favorites like "Black Diamond" down to
"Watchin' You", "Strutter" and all those songs. It
would still have to have that but with a whole new attitude and I think
that's not so easy. It's easier to say it than to do it. We've proved
ourselves on stage to the world but we wanna prove it on CD. Seeing what
we did already man we're miracle workers!
KH: Do you think the new technology
will affect the classic KISS sound?
PC: We wanna stick as close to KISS as possible and don't wanna lose
that energy. It's funny when I listen back to our stuff we had this
really loose, yet incredible energy sound. There was so much energy in
our music and yet there was still the thick chords or the thick drum
fills that I would throw in, these jazz drum fills I was doing at the
time. I was throwing marching stuff in rock & roll when nobody was
even trying that so we wanna capture that again and I think today you
can't go wrong with the new sound systems and especially Ace is like
computer brainwashed. He's the computer maniac of the band. He came up
with the morph at the end of the KISS show so he's really into it. I
think it's gonna be dynamite.
KH: How do you feel about the new
KISS action figures?
PC: I love it! I get a big thrill out of it. I didn't think I'd get
off on it. It was like okay here comes these stupid dolls again like our
Barby dolls we had which I hated and these are so cool. I mean Tod
McFarlane is no flash in the pan, especially with that new Spawn movie
that's out. Spawn is huge for him so to know he's the guy who did our
things, I'm really flattered and he did it incredible they're really
cool! I gotta go in myself in a few days and pick up my four guys
(laughs) it's like I want my four action figures and my daughter wants
hers and my girlfriend wants hers so everybody wants em but I think
they're very cool.
KH: So you like these way more than
the 1978 (Mego) dolls?
PC: Oh yeah! You know, mine has this cool drum that shoots these
battle axes out and the ones back then were like Ken and Barby, that was
chump.
KH: I've got the new ones &
yours is probably my favorite one.
PC: Ha Ha! Excellent! Thankyou.
KH: Towards the end of the tour you
had your own guitar picks made. How did you get the idea to make your
own picks?
PC: Well it was actually my drum tech. Eddie Cannon who got that
idea. We were up there one night and he says you know Cat whenever you
go out and take your bows he said you don't have nothing to give the
fans, you never have nothing to give them, because they abandoned
throwing drumsticks out and the drumsticks I use are very expensive and
they're specially made for me, for my arms since I have carbo syndroms
in my right arm and my left elbow and it's really bad so these sticks
are really weighed out for me and they're just perfectly balanced and
they're very expensive. They're changable so that's why I never throw or
give them out because it's just not like that so we really felt like
there's something we gotta do and Eddie came in one day and he said
here's a big bag of picks I made up for you and I go wow these are
really cool let's do em in green so we did em and then I would start
giving em out to ya and I felt kinda cool cause I was one of the first
drummers to give out guitar picks!
KH: Do you play any guitar at all?
PC: Yeah I'm sloppy though but I have a beutiful collection. I've
got some great guitars. Ace gave me a beutiful Les Paul and the band way
back when it was one of my birthdays they gave me a Les Paul signature
way back then so I've got some nice guitars but I play sloppy. I'm more
like it just comes out of my head and I gotta sing it to a guitar player
or hum it to em and that's the way I write.
KH: I hear there may be plans to
re-release "Out Of Control" & "Let Me Rock You"
on CD. Is that true at all?
PC: That would be cool! It would be okay with me. It's really old
stuff, it's like outdated stuff I would imagine but there were some
pretty good players on there and at the time a lot of people wrote some
nice stuff for me, even Gene wrote a song for me ("Feel Like
Heaven") and Steve Stevens and there was a ot of people writing. It
was some cool stuff for its day, for now it's just outdated.
KH: Which of your solo album did you
enjoy the most or which is your favorite solo album?
PC: I guess the first one.
KH: Really? "I Can't Stop the
Rain" is a real classic I think.
PC: I get a lot of compliments on that song man and it really is
funny through all the years that have gone by, that's the tune that
people still say 'Jesus that is one great ballad.' For anything on that
album and for all the songs I wrote there was a lot of meaning behind 'em
from "Don't Let Me Down" and all that type of stuff. I was
showing my Beatles roots and my R&B roots, it was my favorite album
from "Out Of Control" to "Let Me Rock You" even
through the last CRISS album I did on that small label TNT but you know
the first time is always the best.
KH: Going back to '73, can you tell
us how you came up with your Cat character & makeup?
PC: I don't know, I mean Gene was obviously destined to be the
monster of the band, he really loved monster and horror movies and Ace
loved the space stuff, he was like the starman of the band, all the guys
felt that Paul would be the center guy. It was hard for me and I was
sitting at home, and we're all really good artists, and I was just
scetching and scetching and I had this black tom cat, big old cat, and I
started adding his face structure to my structure and started painting
in the whiskers and I tried it at rehearsal one time and everybody was
like 'wow that's great! that fits you.'
KH: Do you think you relate to cats?
Was that part of it?
PC: Yeah, I'm kinda like very domestic yet I'm really not, I'm still
an alley cat. I still like to rumble but I'm not domestic. I'm a funny
guy, I will either love you or I'll hate you, there's no in between with
me and I don't believe in lying or stealing, that's a far thing from me.
I'm really great around certain people and then if you rub me wrong
you'll know about it pretty fast. I'm a real straight guy, I'm a straght
shooter. I don't care for phonies, I don't like for people to bullshit
me.
KH: Why is your drum kit smaller now
than the kits you played in the '70's?
PC: Actually now there's only one less drum than my old drums.
Believe it or not it's only one less drum so it's really not. Instead of
three in the front I've got two in the front. I've gotten used to two in
the front over the 17 years I've been away from the guys. I got this
really big ride, I like to ride on a big, big ride cymbal and I got into
that habit and I couldn't just change it overnight cause I'm getting
back with KISS and all the sudden raise it to 20 pieces and put another
drum there, I would've played like shit, so it's only one less drum.
KH: Do you feel that less is more
sometimes musically with drums?
PC: I play all the drums I've got up there, I mean everything I've
got I do hit but sometimes absolutley less is more, sometimes less is
the best. Pretty much I'm always on the bass drum, high hat & snare.
I'm not a double bass drum guy and KISS has always been a
straight-forward one bass drum band and I've always made sure that the
time is right, and that is pretty simple when you're not playing much.
KH: How would you compare the latest
KISS tour to the tours you did in the 70's?
PC: Oh my god! Well we worked harder, we worked more, more shows. We
had our own jet-we nicknamed it Ralph, so we had our own jet & that
made things a lot easier of course, even though in the earlier days
we've had our own jet but this jet we've kept through everything. Every
show was huge, everything was sold out way ahead of time-we did 4 nights
at the Garden, we did 3 nights at the Forum, it's like now it's way over
3 million people we've played for. 72,000 in Donnigton, a stadium in
England. We couldn't go wrong. It seemed everything we did was homeruns
and it wasn't like that in the old days. We didn't even need an opening
act half the time because noone really gave a shit as long as we were
there and that was really the truth. I could feel the roar of the crowd
in my dressing room half the times, just starting my way down the
ramp-the insanity was just amazing! It's like we were bigger now than we
were then.
KH: How do you feel about the fans
being so dedicated after so many years?
PC: You gotta love it, you gotta love the KISS Army. Without the
fans and the KISS Army I wouldn't be where I am today and I live a
really comfortable life. I've got money, I've got my health, I've got
everything a guy could want but I don't let that go to my head. I
realise without the KISS Army and the KISS fans KISS would be nowhere
and that'll show you something; we will have been together almost 25
years this year and for people to be with us for 25 years is a long
time. When you talk about dedication I don't really know of any other
bands who've had fans like KISS.
KH: What do you think of some of the
KISS tribute albums that have come out?
PC: I love it and I think it's a great compliment anytime anybody
imitates you or looks like you or sounds like you. It's a huge form of
flattery I think. I see these tribute bands and it blows my mind and I
hear these huge acts today that have covered our songs and it blows my
mind cause I've met so many of these guys from White Zombie to Anthrax
to like Metallica and Aerosmith, they've all come backstage kinda like
'we're not worthy' like 'you guys rule!' very cool.
KH: Why wasn't the set list changed
around more during the last tour?
PC: We did (change it) for Europe actually. It was just that we felt
it was really hitting homeruns and it was a really good show and
everybody really knew their parts right down to the guy who does the
smoke. It's almost a precision run show and we didn't wanna change it
much because sometimes if it's not broke why fix it?
KH: Were there any songs you
would've liked to have played?
PC: Well I would like to do "Hard Luck Woman." We have so
many songs it's so hard to say that.
KH: Did the band do any writing on
the road?
PC: I don't know what they had. I did a lot of lyrics, I'm starting
to collect 'em back up cause I didn't even realise I wrote 'em some
nights and I was going 'wow they're pretty good', I'm starting to
collect 'em now. We haven't even been home a month, I'm still taking
stuff out of suitcases, everytime my cleaning lady comes to my home
there's like more stuff around so I'm still not really settled.
KH: From what I've heard you guys
did a soundcheck at almost every show & I was wondering what kinds
of things the band would usually play during soundchecks?
PC: We would always play "Deuce" and "Love Gun"
and maybe I'd go through "Beth", definitely a little bit of
"God Of Thunder." Always pretty much "Deuce" &
"Love Gun" for checking the harmonies, those were pretty much
the best songs, and Paul was flying towards the end so he had to check
his (flying) rig, so those would pretty much be the things at soundcheck.
KH: What usually goes on backstage
when you're putting on your makeup? Do you do anything to get warmed up
psysically?
PC: I do now, I wish I would've did it when I was younger and I
wouldn't have so much trouble maybe with my arms and I wouldn't have had
to miss a show and now I do play on a pad before we go on. First I soak
my arms in hot water and I work out 10 minutes on a pad. For a KISS day:
nobody puts a day in like KISS. A KISS day starts for us like wake up at
12 o' clock and then around 1:30 to 3:00 we'd maybe do a bunch of
phoners (interviews) in our rooms and then we have to split the hotel
and get in the car, get on the jet, get off the jet & get into
another car, go to the gig, do soundcheck, eat, and by the time that
went on and then whatever else was happening and then by the time the
show would be finished we'd get back to the car, get back to the jet. I
would get to bed at like 2-3 or 4 in the morning sometimes and that was
pretty much what a KISS day was like. From like 1 o' clock in the
afternoon to 2 in the morning we'd never stop. I don't think there's a
band in this world that could do that! Really (laughs) and we're older
and we're in great shape but to keep such a grueling schedule like that
I don't see it. A lot of these guys just kinda walk onstage in their
pajamas and they looked like they had played in my swimming pool! KISS
is not like that. We prepare, we believe it's like going out to battle.
KH: When you started playing drums,
what were some of your favorite and most influential drummers?
PC: Well definitely Gene Krupa, I think him and Buddy Rich were the
big drummers when I was a kid. I was a little boy and my father used to
have all their albums and I just thought these guys were awesome and
finally when I got into rock & roll drumming I liked Charlie Watts
and not that many people think he's great but I love Charlie Watts. I
think he's great. I've always dug John Bonham. I was influenced a lot by
Keith Moon, Ginger Baker and definitely Mitch Mitchell so those were a
lot of influences on me.
KH: What do you remember the most
about getting that first phone call from Gene back in 1973 (to join
KISS)?
PC: I had a party at my moms. There was a bunch of people there and
I'd left my band Chelsea close to a year to that. We were on Decca and
we didn't make it so there was a whole misery to that and I was looking
to make it again and I'm glad it all happened actually and it worked out
for the best, and this maniac (Gene) called me, and this guy's at the
other end of the line asking me these really blatant questions you know:
'are you good looking?', 'do you have long hair?', 'what color eyes do
you have?' 'what's your influences?' I mean putting me through this
major degree of stuff and I thought 'who does this guy think he is?' 'Am
I good looking? Am I Cute?, am I bald?' and he just went on and on and
it was funny to Gene but he knew what he wanted I gotta respect him for
that. He didn't want no jerk off coming in there, they said they didn't
want some audition with a maniac they just wanted to get right to the
point and I'm glad cause I didn't wanna audition with other jerk offs
either.
KH: Are there any plans to ever do
another KISS Convention tour in the future?
PC: Right now I think we're just concentrating on the CD and
preferably a summer tour next year and then I think maybe after all is
said and done and we're all tired of doing the classic KISS I could see
us going out without the makeup and having a really good time, I could
see that but it's definitely not close.
KH: With the KISS original chemistry
back it seems like Paul & Gene have found new appreciations in
playing with yourself & Ace again. Do you have any new appreciations
from playing with Gene & Paul again?
PC: Well I appreciate them in a different way now. We all have kids
now, there's a big difference right there and it's funny cause a lot of
people get a kick out of hearing us talk about our kids, talking about
'how's your house coming?' but pretty much everyday stuff. It seems like
we're more family guys now and we've all really grown up a lot and we
really enjoy each others company . We laugh a lot and we make fun of
each other inconsistantly, noone else is allowed to do that though only
we would do it to each other and there's still this major bond and I
don't know if it's been there ever since I was a kid with these guys, it
seems like there's something magical about the four of us when we walk
into a room. I'm told that people just freak out. Something about our
aura that we have that I really agree that we didn't have it alone but
when I'm with the four of us it's a magical thing so we know that now
and I think we're really grateful.
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Roughcut
Interview with Gene Simmons
roughcut.com's Andy Jones: How did
you get involved in Detroit Rock City, besides the obvious connection?
Gene Simmons: Well, it's either
that or working for a living. KISS is always accused of being
manipulative in its intent, as opposed to just going out there and doing
whatever it feels. And I will grant you that that is exactly what we
are. We actually sit around thinking, "How can we do this better?
How can we make this bigger? How can we do a better show?" But it
doesn't end there, because KISS is -- should be -- all things to all
people. I'd like to think that religion doesn't have one on us and I
prefer to have KISStianity as a matter of fact. Has a certain ring to
it, doesn't it?
What's your function in KISStianity?
I would be god.
Coming from a nice Jewish
background?
Why should the world worship that other guy? He's Jewish, too. What's he
got? So, in terms of manipulation, never leave home without it. (Holds
up a KISS Visa card.)
In time for the movie?
No, that came out about six months ago. So far, the most exciting thing
about it is that every single time one of the people who buys it, uses
it, I get pennies from heaven. Isn't that the best? So, if you had a
choice about being in a band, I mean, if it's just about music and
getting up there and strumming your guitar, I'm snoring. You know, to
me, KISS is all things because almost anything I can imagine doing, KISS
is a perfect vehicle for it. For instance, I wanted to do a comic book,
so -- Presto! -- we're superheroes. That was in the '70s. We fought
Captain America, Spiderman, all those guys. And we flew through the air
-- spit fire -- did all that. And then in the new versions of the comic
books that I set up with Todd McFarlane's Image Comics, KISS Psycho
Circus Comics, was sort of an elemental force -- earth, wind, fire,
water kind of forces. And we sort of appear. We're magic. We can do
that, too. Onstage, we're a rock 'n' roll band. That's fine. On any toy,
on credit cards, you don't see guitars on the Visa card -- the KISS Visa
card -- we're a Visa card. We can be anything we want to be and other
bands can't.
What do you think you represent to
people now? People who didn't grow up with you guys?
[I] don't care. Never got into that. And I'll tell you why. Because
there's such a thing as being subjected to and believing your own press
and becoming that much more delusional. I mean, I have enough. I look in
the mirror and I actually think I'm better looking than I am. I'm much
bigger than I really am. You know, in my mind. I'm it. It helps when you
get up onstage, because there are a lot of artists who get up on stage
who throw up, get jitters. I can't wait to get out there, because that's
my solace.
When I get up on stage, I'm god, I am the king, because I can burp,
fart, do anything you want and they go, "Yeah." Offstage, you
got a nose hair sticking out of there, and it's that sort of subatomic
gaze that everybody looks at you offstage with, that makes you aware
that this is serious. When it's onstage, there's the comfort of
having... it might as well be your mother's arms around you. Anything
you do is fine. It's perfect. And so instead of lying down on a
psychiatrist's couch, I can be up on stage and get paid for it. Do the
show, and then go back to the hotel and do as many encores as I think I
can physically bear.
Ace Frehley said earlier this year
that he was going to quit on New Year's Eve, after the gig.
Somebody else will take his place.
That's what's going to happen?
No. There's always been Ace, from Day One. A loose cannon. And that's
part of what makes him great -- a unique personality. Ace was the same
guy who in the early '80s, wanted to have his own solo career. And we
said, "Have your own solo career. Don't leave the band."
"No, no, I've got to find happiness. I'm leaving the band."
So, he left the band; had a solo career. See ya at bankruptcy court. And
then later on, came back to the band. [He] said, "I'm straight, I'm
ready to go back to work." And every once in a while, the old
demons sort of raise their heads. But Ace never, ever does anything
malicious to anybody else. I'll have to say that he's a pure soul and
I'm the same guy who said during the off years, when we weren't talking
to each other, that he was a knucklehead. Anybody who gets high or
drinks or smokes is an idiot. Whether it's your mom, dad, or somebody
you never met. If you decide to smoke, "Oh, but I can't stop,"
you're a moron. Because it says so right there, you, jackass, you are
going to die. Right there on the side. And so style or anything else,
notwithstanding, you're a moron. And I said that to him. If you can't
love yourself enough to control yourself, how can we, the band, expect
you to love us and respect us? And, of course, how can the fans expect
you to give anything? It really starts with yourself.
In the movie kids smoke pot. Are you
worried about the message it might send?
No. I prefer to lead my own lifestyle, practice what I preach. Preachers
tell us, "Don't do this, don't do that," and then molest our
children in the basement....
You taught kids once.
Sixth grade.
KISS seems like an odd path to end
up on.
No. Not really. It's the way women are with and without makeup. I mean,
when you're without your makeup, you feel a certain way. We all have our
sort of Emperor's clothes moments where we think, "Gee, without
this other thing, I can't get by." But when you put your makeup on,
all of a sudden, you have more power and you can look somebody right in
the face. Paint has always been a powerful weapon, used by shamans --
first by men, incidentally. Women were not allowed to wear makeup until
Cleopatra because it was a power and men used it for going to war, for
theatrical displays, for religious rites and so on. And all these magic
people who had touch with either spirits, ghosts, gods, you name it, all
put on makeup.
Why did the blood and fire become
part of the act?
It's been said before, better than I -- that the whole world's a stage.
And so, when we get up there, it's our job to make a complete spectacle
out of ourselves. What it all means is sort of beside the point. I mean,
you can be looking at a Fourth of July fireworks display and everybody
can look up and say, "Wow! Look at that." One person, of
course, taking notes will say, "Yes. But what does it all
mean?" We could sort of be academic about it but that's like
contemplating your navel. It's never going to go anywhere.
Director Adam Rifkin has said a lot
of the memorabilia for the movie came from your personal collection.
All of it. I collect everything.
Why?
I'm delusional. I am my own biggest fan. I'm sure if I lay down on
somebody's couch at a high price -- it sounds like the boudoir all of a
sudden, but I'm thinking about a shrink -- they could tell me that it
means this, it means that. I was an only child, still am. So, I'm sure a
lot of it has to do with wanting attention and sort of getting
everything you ever dreamed of. I've always been aware [of history]. As
a matter of fact, my mother has, too. She's got every report card, every
piece of paper, any test I've ever taken, any toilet paper I've ever
wiped with. It's all still there.
You have two children.
Two children that I know of, [they're] 10 and 7. One of each.
I suspect you don't put too many
limits on what they see or hear.
You are responsible for yourself. The world is out there, closing your
eyes and ears to things is not going to work. I'm not going to push them
to see horrific murders and so on, but I'm more concerned about [real]
violence than about imaginary sort of visual or auditory imagery.
Music and movies have been blamed
for kids going bad.
I think religion is much more to blame. I'm clearly aware that anything,
any political religious system that espouses a difference between people
-- we're the right ones; they're the wrong ones -- immediately brings
something to mind, whether it's neighborhoods living in little clannish
areas where people start to look and act the same way or whether it's a
religious order that says we're the right way; they're the wrong way.
It's still the might-is-right principle. Whereas Star Wars and Marilyn
Manson and anything else is freeing, because you don't think of
prototypes or types of people. It's just sort of imagination. It's no
more, no less valued than the Brothers Grimm.
Could KISS have happened in the
'90s?
I would have welcomed the opportunity to come out in the '90s to show
all the little boys how the big boys do it. 'Cause all these pizza
delivery guys running around on stage with guitars thinking that they
can charge full price for what they do by jumping up and down. I mean,
looking like a garage band is the height of insult -- not necessarily
musically, I grant you. A lot of the music is very valid and powerful
stuff. But I'm of the opinion that when you pay full price for a concert
ticket, you want to use your eyes as well. That doesn't mean you have to
spit fire and fly through the air -- which I do at shows -- but, I think
the audience deserves more. And if you're going to go out there and do
sort of a garage band show, charge garage band prices. That's fair.
But what are you, religiously?
I was born Jewish. I suppose whether I define myself as a Jew or not is
beside the point because the world does. It's like whether or not you
define yourself as black or not. It's not the point. You are black. I am
Jewish. And you are whatever you are. The difference, though, is that
the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant majority has a choice, there's a lot of
leeway. The minorities have less of a choice of how they define
themselves. The powers that be just say, you're that, that's all there
is. In fact, if you have one-sixteenth or whatever it is... so I'm a Jew
because I'm a Jew. That's what society tells me, because you're an
accident of birth. Where you're born, who you are and what you are is an
accident of birth. And I contend that that's still not who you are.
There are males who are born male, who feel like females and vice versa.
And there are racist families who have children who don't feel that way.
And I don't believe that just because you come out of your mother's womb
that you are then, of course, simply a carbon copy of that. I don't
espouse that philosophy. I believe that we are all complete individuals.
To get back to your acting a bit...
I'm acting right now.
I know. Are you thinking of doing
some more film work?
Yeah. I have a short moment. This summer I'll be acting in a movie
called, Wish You Were Dead with Cary Elwes and other people. I play an
Italian hairdresser.
How much of a role did you have in
the movie?
Unfortunately, it's pretty much my ball, my court, so I sort of set the
rules. And I have the most to lose. And so does KISS, because if the
sense of it and the vibe of it is wrong, it hurts KISS. And like Disney,
I try and protect all things KISS. So, it was very important that the
feeling of the movie was that KISS were sort of heroic, sort of figures,
as opposed to heroin-induced losers. Sid & Nancy would not be a
movie I would want to make about KISS, because it tears down the ideal
of The Sex Pistols and makes you think, "What a bunch of
losers."
Would you ever do a more
documentary-based history of the band?
That's being planned right now.
Would you play yourselves?
Probably not. Not today.
Who would you want to play you in
the movie?
Oh, Tom Cruise.
On a realistic level.
On a realistic level? Bette Midler as Gene Simmons.
Did you like Velvet Goldmine?
No. I'm always aware that these people are actors. At the very least I'd
say, '"What a good job of acting." But I'm always aware
they're not a band. Bands don't walk, talk, smell or look like that.
They're closer to hobos. What I mean by that is that there's a sense of
a kind of aimlessness -- there's a lost quality. When you see Willie
Nelson talking, you know that the road is forever. So, when I see these
guys, they seem very grounded, secure in themselves and so on. I don't
know if you've ever seen interviews with nomads or gypsies, it's an
entirely different sense of self. You know, you have a connection to a
place. Bands don't have a connection to a place. So, they usually don't
carry watches, for one thing. If you see a guy on the road, and he's
looking at his watch... What are you looking at your watch for? You
don't know what day it is, you don't know what time it is. You don't
know where you are and you don't know where you're going.
Is that why so many bands get into
drugs?
I love that bands get into drugs. I wish every band was on heroin. I
want them all to die and get out of my way. Get out of my way. I want
more. I love that Jerry Garcia was on heroin and died; it's great. Kurt
Cobain wants to shoot himself in the head, God bless. Get the f--k out
of my way. And I'll tell you why. I have no sympathy for anybody who is
privileged and decides to off themselves. That's not tragic. That's a
choice. You have a choice. If you are being tortured someplace or you
get run over by a car, that's tragic, because you don't have a choice in
life. If you are a privileged person, you're rich, usually white, which
means that you have the advantages of the white power structure... How
come it's always white guys on top of skyscrapers, "The world is
terrible. I've got two cars. I'm going to kill myself?" You never
see a black guy on top of a ghetto neighborhood saying, "It's a
racist world, I'm going to kill myself." You never see that. How
come? And it's just merely an observation. I'm not condemning anybody. I
hate everybody equally, incidentally.
Why did you choose to change your
name?
That's not my name. I want choices. We're all given religions, names,
nationalities, stuff.... When you get to choose, I mean, the few things
you get to choose are your lip color and your hair color and how high
your shoes are going to be. That's not enough for me. I want to choose
my name, where I live, who I socialize with. I want to have my own life,
my own identity. So, this idea that women give up their last names and
become somebody else's last name or that you go through life with your
names -- that's not yours. Before you were even born, "What do you
think we should call him? Hiram. Let's call him Hiram." And this
poor guy has to go defend himself for the rest of his life because his
name's Hiram. Now I'm going to get in trouble with Hirams.
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Gene
Simmons Chat Transcript
Question: Gene, who was your role
model when you were a kid? You are my role model.
Gene Simmons: I could give the funny answer, but a better one would
be the honest answer. The answer is my mother, a human being who
personifies the best in ethics, morality and perseverance. They're all
big words, and all of them mean she kicks ass.
Question: Did you enjoy producing
DRC? Was it more enjoyable to be in the control seat than as an actor?
Gene Simmons: They're two totally different animals. Being one
myself, one must learn to gauge the give and take of attack and bluff.
Producing is mostly a dynamic involving people skills and involves
usually selling ice cubes to Eskimos. In other words, you have to
convince everybody that what you're about to tell them is exactly what
they need.
Question: Is it true Jesus grew his
hair long after seeing KISS in concert?
Gene Simmons: Yes, like all good Jewish boys, he did, in fact.
Question: Gene, do you think a new
rock band today that has an '80s hard rock sound would work in today's
market?
Gene Simmons: No.
Question: What is the latest word on
the possibility of an animated KISS project, and where might we see it
occur?
Gene Simmons: I'm finalizing the last stages of a deal to bring
"KISS Psycho Circus," a Saturday morning cartoon show, alive
on Fox even as we speak.
Question: I was wondering when a new
album was coming out and if there will be a tour?
Gene Simmons: There will absolutely be a tour in the year 2000. Before
then, on the 23rd of August, KISS will debut The Demon, a wrestler
wearing Gene Simmons makeup, on "Monday Night Nitro" on all
Turner stations nationwide. The event will happen in Las Vegas at the
MGM Grand on August 23rd. KISS will perform "God of Thunder"
and The Demon will be born.
Question: Who did you inherit the
tongue from?
Gene Simmons: When I was born, the doctor pulled me out by the wrong
appendage.
Question: Will the new KISS song
"Nothing Can Keep Me From You" be released as a single?
Gene Simmons: The single is now making the rounds of radio stations.
That's the first step. If radio responds, then it will, indeed, be
released as a single.
Question: Anything special planned
for New Year's Eve this year?
Gene Simmons: Yes, but I can't talk about it right now. Between
"Detroit Rock City," the WCW wrestler, the KISS star on the
Hollywood Walk of Fame, the KISS cartoon show, "Rock and Roll All
Night," a CBS Movie of the Week, plus the upcoming tour, there's
certainly enough to talk about... before I talk about anything else.
Question: What was it like playing a
role in which you were allowed almost back in time to the '70s?
Gene Simmons: It didn't suck.
Question: What is your favorite song
to perform, and has the band always gotten along well all these years?
Gene Simmons: Favorite song to perform is "Deuce."
Anybody, team, family or any other kind of group that says they always
get along are liars of the highest degree. In fact, all groups of
peoples disagree [at] times. KISS is probably no different than your
family. You argue like cats and dogs, but blood is thicker than water.
KISS is family. I can be angry with my brother, but if you say anything
about him, I'll kill you.
Question: What made the band decide
to go back to the makeup?
Gene Simmons: KISS is the only band that has this multiple
personality thing. We are both Clark Kent and Superman rolled into one.
KISS had a huge career wearing makeup, and we had a huge career without
makeup. Having said all of the above, Superman is still cooler than
Clark Kent.
Question: Are you alone, or is the
band sitting there with you?
Gene Simmons: I'm not alone, but the band is not here.
Question: Who do you think is a hot
band out right now?
Gene Simmons: There's a lot of very interesting music, but very few
artists have a brain to go along with it. I think Manson is clever. He
has a point of view which doesn't depend on anybody else, and I find
that refreshing. Most other bands are either copying black rappers or
prescribe to the "rock goes camping" philosophy, which means
they look more at home climbing a mountain than being in a band. I like
bands that piss on the ground and claim their turf.
EAMusic1: What's Ace's deal?
Gene Simmons: Ace is the single most unique human being I've ever
met. He's like a brother to me. And at the same time, I've been angry at
him like almost no one I've ever known. Ace and I flew into New York
yesterday to do radio promotions. And, in case all of you are
buzzing/gossiping, the God's honest truth is, Ace is well, happy, and,
honestly, can't wait to get out there and back up on stage with KISS.
Question: Are all of you in the
movie, and do you perform?
Gene Simmons: "Detroit Rock City," while it is about KISS,
is nevertheless a movie more about four KISS fans. In some ways it's
very Biblical. Imagine "The Ten Commandments." It's a story of
a pilgrimage, it's a story of people believing in a philosophy, God, in
this case. "Detroit Rock City" might be called KISStianity...
a religion, if you will... a point of view, perhaps. It's really the
story of four believers in the faith and their journey on the yellow
brick road to Detroit Rock City. Oh, by the way, in this Biblical epic,
KISS is God.
Question: When does the movie come
out?
Gene Simmons: Friday the 13th nationwide. Please go -- my mother
wants another house.
Question: I really enjoyed the
"Second Coming" video. Anything else like that planned?
Gene Simmons: Yes. But if I start to tell you all the new stuff, it
will make your head spin like the little girl in "The
Exorcist."
Question: Do people recognize you
without your makeup on?
Gene Simmons: Yes. I don't look Swedish.
EAMusic1: For all those wanting to know
when KISS is going to be in your hometown, the tour will start in the
year 2000.
Question: Do you plan on doing any
more acting?
Gene Simmons: I'm acting right now. I will be acting in a film in
September called "Wish You Were Dead." It will be directed by
Valerie McCaffrey. And a second one in October called "Night
Club" with, I'm told, Alec Baldwin and a number of other cameos.
Question: How many times have you
set your hair on fire onstage while spitting fire?
Gene Simmons: Probably six or seven, over the course of 28 years.
Question: Do you think your music or
films have had a good or bad impact on the young people of today?
Gene Simmons: It's not for me to say. I just work here.
Question: How big a part do you and
the other members of KISS play in the new movie?
Gene Simmons: We play a pivotal role. No more or less important than
the part the Wizard plays in "The Wizard Of Oz."
Question: When will the CBS movie be
on?
Gene Simmons: It's being written now by Jeff Arch, who wrote
"Sleepless in Seattle," based on a story of mine. It will be
out in the winter on CBS.
Question: Is KISS going to be doing
another Halloween concert this year?
Gene Simmons: Yes. Details are being worked out now. And, like all
things KISS, we will make a complete spectacle of ourselves.
Question: How do you feel about your
groupies?
Gene Simmons: I love groupies. The world is a better place with
them. In fact, my second movie at New Line Cinema is actually called
"Groupies," based on a story I wrote, script by Allison Anders
and Kurt Voss.
Question: What would you say the
greatest memory of being in KISS has been for you?
Gene Simmons: While it's true being onstage is a kick, there's
nothing like doing the encores back at the hotel.
Question: How do you feel that after
all these years KISS is still so popular? What do you attribute that to?
Gene Simmons: We live and die by the will of our fans. We work for
you. You are our bosses.
Question: What other names did you
think of besides KISS and how did you rule them out?
Gene Simmons: There were very few names seriously considered. KISS
popped out of Paul Stanley's mouth in a car with Paul, Peter and myself
in it. When we all heard it, we instinctively knew.
EAMusic1: Where are you now, Gene?
Everyone wants to know.
Gene Simmons: I'm in New York City.
Question: Is your wife there?
Gene Simmons: I don't know how many times I have to spell it out for
everybody, so here we go again. Now, listen carefully, all of you.
Number one: I am not now married... I have never been married... I don't
ever want to be married. Number two: Shannon Tweed and I have two kids.
I am crazy about her. Number three: now all of you get this part and
write it in your little KISS books... we are NOT married. The only thing
wrong with marriage is that, usually, one of the two is a man.
Question: Will we see new costumes
on the next tour?
Gene Simmons: Wait and see.
EAMusic1: Thank you, Gene!
Gene Simmons: Thank you.
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